Petter Reinholdtsen

Mer oppfølging fra MPEG-LA om avtale med dem for å kringkaste og publisere H.264-video
5th July 2012

I føljetongen om H.264 forlot jeg leserne i undring om hvor pakken fra MPEG-LA tok veien, og om hvilke selskaper i Norge som har avtale med MPEG-LA. Da Ryan hos MPEG-LA dro på ferie sendte jeg min melding videre til hans kollega, og dagen etter fikk jeg følgende svar derfra:

Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:32:34 +0000
From: Sidney Wolf <SWolf (at) mpegla.com>
To: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com>
Cc: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com>
Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,

Thank you for your message. As you know, Ryan is currently our of the office, so it will be my pleasure to assist you.

Per your request, attached please find an electronic copy of the AVC Patent Portfolio License. Please note that the electronic copy of the License is provided as a convenience and for informational purposes only. When concluding the Licenses, only the hard copies provided by MPEG LA may be used.

To your question, MPEG LA lists our Licensees on our website according to each program. The lists are in alphabetical order, so it is very easy to search.

I hope that this was helpful. If we can be of additional assistance, please let me know.

Kind regards,

Sidney A. Wolf
Manager, Global Licensing
MPEG LA

Selv om et epostvedlegg er nyttig for mottakeren, så håpet jeg å få et dokument jeg kunne dele med alle leserne av bloggen min, og ikke et som må deles på individuell basis. Opphavsretten krever godkjenning fra rettighetsinnehaver før en kan gjøre slikt, så dermed fulgte jeg opp med et spørsmål om dette var greit.

Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 20:25:06 +0200
From: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com>
To: Sidney Wolf <SWolf (at) mpegla.com>
Cc: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com>
Subject: Re: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

Thank you for your reply.

[Sidney Wolf]
> Per your request, attached please find an electronic copy of the AVC
> Patent Portfolio License. Please note that the electronic copy of
> the License is provided as a convenience and for informational
> purposes only. When concluding the Licenses, only the hard copies
> provided by MPEG LA may be used.

This is useful for me to learn, but the reason I asked for the Internet address of the licensing document was to ensure I could publish a link to it when I discuss the topic of H.264 licensing here in Norway, and allow others to verify my observations. I can not do the same with an email attachment. Thus I would like to ask you if it is OK with MPEG LA that I publish this document on the Internet for others to read?

> To your question, MPEG LA lists our Licensees on our website
> according to each program. The lists are in alphabetical order, so
> it is very easy to search.

I am afraid this do not help me locate Norwegian companies in the list of Licensees. I do not know the name of all companies and organisations in Norway, and thus do not know how to locate the Norwegian ones on that list.

> I hope that this was helpful. If we can be of additional assistance,
> please let me know.

Absoutely helpful to learn more about how MPEG LA handle licensing.

--
Happy hacking
Petter Reinholdtsen

Jeg håpet også at det skulle være mulig å få vite hvilke av de mange hundre som har avtale med MPEG-LA om bruk av H.264 som holdt til i Norge. Begge mine håp falt i grus med svaret fra MPEG-LA.

Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:42:39 +0000
From: Sidney Wolf <SWolf (at) mpegla.com>
To: 'Petter Reinholdtsen' <pere (at) hungry.com>
Cc: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com>
Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,

Thank you for your reply.

We appreciate the additional explanation you have provided and for asking our permission to publish the electronic copy of the License in advance of doing so. Typically, MPEG LA prefers to distribute the electronic copies of our Licenses to interested parties. Therefore, please feel free to send interested parties to the AVC portion of our website, http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Intro.aspx for their further reference.

As previously mentioned, MPEG LA maintains a list of Licensees in good standing on our website according to each program. Due to the large volume of Licensees, it would be administratively impractical to provide this level of detail to interested parties. Therefore, I am afraid we are not in a position to assist you with your request.

Kind regards,

Sidney A. Wolf
Manager, Global Licensing
MPEG LA

Men takket være epostvedlegget kunne jeg søke på Google etter setningen "WHEREAS, a video standard commonly referred to as AVC has been defined and is referred to in this Agreement as the “AVC Standard” (as more fully defined herein below)" som finnes i avtalen, og lokalisere en kopi fra 2007 av lisensavtalen mellom MPEG-LA og DivX, Inc., slik at mine lesere kan se hvordan avtalen så ut da. Jeg har ikke sammenlignet tekstene for å se om noe har endret seg siden den tid, men satser på at teksten er representativ.

Jeg aner fortsatt ikke hvor FedEx tok veien med pakken fra MPEG-LA.

Update 2012-07-06: Jeg er visst ikke den første som forsøker å få klarhet i problemstillinger rundt H.264, og kom nettopp over en veldig interessant bloggpost fra 2010 hos LibreVideo med tittelen "MPEG-LA answers some questions about AVC/H.264 licensing. Anbefales!

Tags: h264, multimedia, norsk, opphavsrett, standard, video, web.

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